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VOL.04    No. 01                                                                                              19 Oct 2001
If You Love the Lord Jesus Christ


Oneness, Trinity & True Bible Christianity

Dear Fellow-laborers in the Kingdom of God:

I read a newspaper article entitled,"Pentecostal group picks new leader; event ends today. Hope offered for thaw in relations."

First let me say that I was "born and raised" Assemblies of God and attended one of their Bible Colleges. I also visited many other "mainline" denominational churches and the Moody Bible Institute's Founders Week in Chicago a couple of years.


For the first thirty (30) years of my life, I would have called myself a Trinitarian. But then, while living in Chicago, I first discovered that the staunchest Trinitarian apologists will readily admit that the word Trinity does not occur a single time anywhere in the Bible, but they insist that the principle is sound and solid.

However, the reverse is true if you will examine both the Bible record of God's true identity and also the historical record. 

The trinitarian apologists are right when they admit the word trinity does not exist in the Bible.  In fact, the Jews insisted that "...the LORD our God is one LORD." (Deuteronomy 6:4). Jesus Christ, Himself repeated, "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:" (Mark 12:29).

The early church was founded in and on that principle, solidly based on no less than Jesus' own words.. It was not until an early heretic bishop in the Second Century named Tertullian began to question of what substance God is that there was any question in the church about His identity.

Many encyclopedias, including the Catholic Encyclopedia, at least in older editions, credit Athanatius of Alexandria (Egypt) (293-373) as the "father of the Trinity".

Thus, it is NOT the oneness Pentecostals who are the heretics according to the Bible, but the majority of churches, specifically all those that teach the Trinity heresy. I am non-denomimnational and fellowship and preach wherever the Lord leads and frankly prefer to say that I am straight Bible, but others do call me "oneness" or Apostolic Pentecostal.

I would invite anyone to visit http://followersofjesuschrist.org and study what the Bible says in the context and setting in which it says it. I especially challenge lawyers and ministers of any denomination to study the Bible with the intent to know and understand what Jesus Christ and His original Apostles taught, preached and practiced.  

The newspaper writer was quite correct to say that "Oneness Pentecostals teach that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three manifestations of one God, rather than separate persons.
   "They baptize new members in the name of Jesus -- and rebaptize those who had been baptized in the name of the Trinity.

   "While this might seem like splitting hairs, Christian churches since ancient times have measured people's orthodoxy in part by whether they believe God is at once Father, Son (Jesus Christ) and Holy Spirit." Here the writer was mostly correct, except that most churches insist on inserting the word, "Person" as each of the three words, "Father, Son and Holy Spirit." God in three persons, blessed trinity, as the song, "Holy, Holy, Holy," says.

The fact is that historically, it can be demonstrated that for the first 150 or so years AD, there was no question what the Churches of the Lord Jesus Christ taught, preached and practiced. Their foundational activities are recorded in the Book of the Acts of the Apostles in the New Testament, by the Christian historian Eusebius and the jewish historian Josephus, as well as other writers whose writings are still being discovered and unearthed from time to time.

In the Book of the Acts of the Apostles, you will see first the commandment of the Lord Jesus Christ obeyed by the Apostle Peter, to whom Jesus had given the keys to the Kingdom (not the city) of heaven. In response to a Holy Spirit spectacular, a huge crowd gathered; many of them mocking and scoffing.

Then Peter preached the first ever Holy Spirit anointed sermon by a regular spirit-filled man and those who believed his message were said to have been "pricked in their heart" and asked how to be saved. (Acts 2:36-37).

The Apostle Peter, by that same anointing and power of the Holy Spirit, commanded that they repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, (Acts 2:38) a practice demonstrated in every single instance in which a conversion is reported in the Book of Acts (overwhelming evidence for a lawyer!).

The Apostle Paul, the champion of the message of God's grace, later likens baptism to the burial of the old sinful nature which was or should have been "slain" or killed in the repentance stage and resurrection with Jesus Christ (Romans 6:3-5, also Galatians 3:27 and Colossians 2:12), to walk in newness of life. Later, he also adds that if any man (person) be in Christ, he (or she) is a new creature with old things (the sinful nature and its attributes) passed away and behold all things become new. (2 Corinthians 5:17).

The Trinity Doctrine was never a belief of the majority of Christians until Athanatius of Alexandria argued brilliantly for that doctrine at the First Council of Nicea in 325 AD, when it was voted on and accepted and later

enhanced and reconfirmed at the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD by the Cappadocian Fathers.

A little history on Athanatius: Athanatius of Alexandria was a graduate of the ancient University in Alexandria, Egypt where he had studied first the Babylonian religion which contained a trinity similar to the one he later infused into the Church. Nimrod was the Father god, Tamus (or Tamuz) was his half-human son and Samaramis was the human mother.

Then he studied the Egyptian, Greek and Roman religions, each of which included a trinity at the top along with other lesser gods. Then, he finally attempted to join the Church of Jesus Christ in Alexandria. But his heretical views caused him to be ousted from the congregation until he was able to politic his way back by cornering family after family of new Christian converts who were not yet solid in the Apostles' doctrine until he had enough votes to be brought in not just as a new member, but as a leader. These facts are well documented in many encyclopedias under the headings of Athanatius, Christianity, Baptism, and Trinity, as well as many other sources.

I have been unable to find any record of Athanatius having a real biblical new birth or covnversion experience. Only of joining the church and then adding Babylonian doctrine with Christian names and terms.

The Council of Nicea was called by Roman Emperor Constantine. Again, there is no record of his conversion to real biblical Christian new birth salvation. He was having trouble with rebellions at home and foreign armies attacking and in his dream one night, he dreamed of winning battles beneath the banner of the Christian cross. He stopped pagan persecution of the Church, then ordered the Bishops to assemble at Nicea to settle several matters of doctrine that seemed divisive in the church.

There, as secretary to the Bishop of Alexandria, Athanatius argued skilfully for a godhead of three persons based largely on the Babylonian, but with Christian names. Following the formal adoption of the trinity doctrine, persecution of Modalists, Sabellians, Arians and other smaller groups that tried to adhere to the original apostles' doctrine were persecuted with a religious zeal that was more to be feared than the persecution pagans had waged against any Christians.

Contrary to the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ, much blood was shed and many who stuck firmly by the
historic position of the Apostles were killed by the new Trinitarians.

As to Jesus' identity, Isaiah 9:6 declares that a child would be born, a son would be given whose name would be called Wonderful, Counselor (attorney), Mighty God, Everlasting Father and the Prince of Peace. The Child to be born would have all these titles, but being a Son, the Child could not have been eternal in the sense of His earthly Son body, but in the sense that the earthly body was a physical manifestation of the God He was and is. Furthermore, the Angel Gabriel declared to the virgin, Mary, that the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost would be the source of her conception, but the child would be called the Son of the Highest!! (See Luke 1:26-33.) If the trinity were true, how could the Second Person of the Trinity be the Son of the Third Person but called the Son of the First person?

Confusing? You bet! Also not scriptural! And in John 14, uses the progression of their understanding to explain. Jesus first says He will ask the Father to send a Comforter, but in a slightly different context and as their understanding grew, He explained that it would be He, Jesus who would send the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, and a couple of verses later explains that in reality it would be He, by His own Spirit that would be the Comforter. "I will
come to you. I will be in you." (John 14:16-18). And who do people say is living in their hearts? Jesus. If He were a Person, this would be impossible in every way, but because He is a Spirit who once manifested in a fleshly body to become the Lamb of God to take away the sin of the world, (John 1:29, 35) He, in His Spirit form does indeed live in the heart (not the muscle, but the seat of affection and understanding) of all who truly trust and obey Him and His word.

Finally, on the subject of baptism, the original Greek words (newer lexicons admit the trinitarian modifications to the meaning of the word, but go all the way back and you will see) "baptizo" from which we get the English "Baptize" meant originally to bury, dip or to immerse in a liquid. The Greek word meaning "pour" originally was "cheo" and the Greek word for "sprinkling" was "Rhantizo." Thus, if you were sprinkled, you were not truly baptized but "rhantized," and if water was poured over you and they called it baptism, you really were only "cheo"ed!

And, for emphasis, the explanation the Apostle Paul gives for the meaning of baptism is found in (Romans 6:3-5, also Galatians 3:27 and Colossians 2:12). The end result should always be the birth of the "New Creature in Christ Jesus.

— S.M.S.



Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:37-39 (in Context)

Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:3-5

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up
from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

John 14:16-18
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.



Finally: DO NOT LOWER
your Bible integrity standard, but elevate, RAISE it
to full agreement with what the Bible really says.

Yours for Jesus' sake,

Bro. Sam



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